Theyve always said when we have verifiable evidence to say a mountain lion has been, is, or was in the state that wed acknowledge that and give that information out, says Pat Tate, the furbearer biologist with New Hampshire Fish and Game, who insists theres no conspiracy. Anytime at any HP broad dot org or subscribe to our podcast search Apple podcasts Google Play or stitcher for an HP bar exchange. It's completely possible that it may have spent time in New Hampshire and went undetected but had it stayed in the area ultimately it would have been detected over time. Love hearing these stories. And when provoked no animal could stand before him elegantly put. First off if the standard for an agency to go forward with the public and put out a press release that them outlines here their believers are going to say I told you they'd been here the whole time. Theres a project called the Cougar Network that tracks verified sightings, and they are all around us: Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, New York and New Brunswick have all had verified sightings over the past 20 years or so. Fear for others and those two polarizing opinions on the situation is what I believe brings out mystique and Sam you know I take kind of a long view on this. Caller: Oh hi. Your support makes this news available to everyone. Sort of dropped onto the SD card of a camera he'd set up out in the wild. And that the Florida panther was more closely related to the eastern outline than the western mountain lion was. Peter Biello: Well yeah. So before we get to the the the the stories of sightings we're getting a lot of calls. Patrick Tate: Yes. If youve got photo trap evidence of a Mountain Lion, send it in, and we'll send it along to the appropriate state or federal agency! Deer Bear Moose Grey Wolf Coyote Foxes Fisher Mountain Lion NH Wildlife History. Caller: It had just left that field and was out. We live around Cold Springs Campground and it was undeniably a mountain lion. Tim Yeah. For all the men out there that don't realize it. Can we go to the site. As recently as 2011 there was one young male mountain lion that cruised all the way from the black hills of South Dakota, up over the Great Lakes, down through New Yorkgetting spotted all along the waykilled a beaver near the Quabbin Reservoir in Central Massachusetts, left behind prints and DNA at that site, and then was hit by a car in Connecticut. I looked at the picture and asked me what do you see in the picture and I wrote back. I've seen him in the woods and that was not a bobcat but I was looking at. So I want to start the program with a comment from someone who is not in the studio with us today. And in fact in 2011 when it was announced that the eastern cougar was officially extinct the reason that announcement was made is because they said really that it never existed. I'm Peter Biello in for Laura NOI. Peter Biello: When did you allegedly see a mountain lion. So you know until I found those two scats I didn't think that mountain lions were here in the east. Yeah I did. And that's this morning at 10:00 here on NH PR. From "History of New Hampshire Game and Furbearers" by Helenette Silver, Research Clerk, NH Fish and Game Dept. Mountain Lions in NH. From came from out west they tracked it all the way back to the Black Hills in the Dakotas. Want to report a Mountain Lion sighting in New Hampshire? He studied Politics and Spanish at Bates College, and before reporting was variously employed as a Spanish teacher, farmer, bicycle mechanic, ski coach, research assistant, a wilderness trip leader and a technical supporter. So we tossed these terms around but really the term subspecies has been sort of redefined in our lifetimes. However if if and when it does happen it takes up a lot of resources looking at that situation and identifying what's going on because when you start out you don't know it's a hoax. Id like to hazard the explanation that we really, really want to see a mountain lion.
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Windham Life and Times - November 15, 2019 HOLDERNESS, N.H. (AP) Two of the known mountain lions in New Hampshire have spent their 15 years in close proximity to humans. When they were landing or taking off and it seems like it's been there for like. So that that's more or less I think why I'm here and why I got into this in nineteen ninety nine I found a what appeared to be a print of a mountain lion and that was in the Osprey mountains and I thought well OK that's that's a print. These were normal everyday folks. Do cougars live in New England? Sue Morse: First and foremost if you have color or if you could see details of color look at the front of the face around the Pumas muzzle the muzzle itself is pure white. Yes and you want to share what you learned. How to Report a Possible Mountain Lion Sighting. Patrick Tate: And there's one other way to model that is the same animal. I really really enjoyed listening to this program so thank you all very much. You can see two of them at Squam Lakes Natural Science Center in Holderness NH. Peter Biello: What about the idea of tourism like us leaving aside the fact that it is not on the Endangered Species Act is it. I'm Peter B yellow. Because I mean as we've heard in the past 10 minutes like there's there's some disagreement or at least some some vagueness about what an actual mountain lion should appear like in the wild assuming we can even get close enough. I live pretty much on the town line of Greenfield just a couple of miles down in the Greenfield. We'll also hear your stories if you have them again. So that did it for me. She was having a garden party on her back porch and everybody in the party saw this mountain lion across the field down below the porch. We'd love to have you in the queue. That's pretty elaborate. Here she is talking about how to identify a mountain lion. No evidence and other states where Mountain lights have turned up. The second one was not only fresh but when I actually put my hand on it it was you know smelled like cat and I it's there's no denying a fresh mountain lions get if you can tell it every story that KOAT. WMUR NH Chronicle Mountain Lions in NH Part I and Part II. However, as far as I can tell theres no Deep State Conspiracy to cover up a breeding population of cougars in the Granite State. Anyways after three weeks I finally found the image on line on a field and stream photo contest and the explanation in the end was the person that set the camera out with another individual and they believed that someone who knew of the camera location saw the similarities put the can't picture on their SD card so it looked like that camera recorded the image that is. Information that weed family automotive dot com sunny for today high temperatures low to mid 80s clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s tomorrow sunny highs in the upper 80s. What kind of animal is that. There wasn't a distinct subspecies the North American mountain lion is all is all one species and then you can find a genetically distinct South American subspecies. He played a pivotal role and he battled for recognition. Patrick Tate: So Cougar Mountain Lion katama.
Residents believe cougars still roam New Hampshire's forests Sam Evans-Brown: One in fact Helena silver in that sort of tome that Rick van de Poll read from at the beginning is she. And to anyone listening I would just say you know fishing game who wants proof right. (Cue the X-Files music: The Government is denying the cougars exist!) This decision was primarily for nerdy phylogeny reasons, though, because the eastern cougar probably never existed. But if you were to get Western dispersing mountain lions just would just sort of expanding into New Hampshire.
Mountain Lions in NH - Facebook If it's someone that has an illegal captive animal that is accustomed to humans those leave a lot of evidence because they want to go around humans to find food meaning they're used to being fed by humans. Let's look for other evidence. Patrick Tate: Well. Peter Biello: They make great mascots at least. Residents believe cougars still roam New Hampshire's forests. Here it is. Rick van de Poll: Well the mountain lion of course has been sort of an enigma in the wildlife suite for years and years. Patrick Tate: I've from all the situations I've read and learned about wildlife. Well let's hear from from Sue Morse again science director for the organization keeping track.
History of Mountain Lions in New Hampshire | NH Wildlife You treat it as if it's a sincere situation. I mean they're a survivor. For over 38 years the Saddleback Mountain Lions have offered people a chance to give back to their community. There's a lot of photographs that you can see that it's very clearly a tabby cat that someone has thought was a mountain lion. Peter Biello: And then it ran away okay. Have it reported down in the Keene area. Are these big cats back?Subscribe to WMUR on YouTube now for more: http://bit.ly/1lOjX9CGet more Manchester news: http://wmur.comLike us: http://facebook.com. So if you were to ask me has a mountain lion ever passed through New Hampshire and been spotted by somebody who wasnt able to get hard evidence? Id personally be willing to say "probably, yes.". Peter Biello: But clearly you know you're saying like hoaxes people who claim to have seen a mountain lion but knowingly have not or are appropriating photos taken elsewhere of legit mountain lion say out West where they people acknowledge that they exist certainly knowingly or unknowingly in this case the person who sent it to me said hey a friend of mine sent me this photo and said he took it on his back porch also. Rick van de Poll: Rick your thoughts. But before I go any further I want to say we do not have sufficient game. Ecosystem Management Consultants of New England, Ask Sam, and recently fielded question about mountain lions, 10 things to do in NH this weekend: Dartmouth Dance, Hamilton De Holanda & more, Turkish restaurant in the Upper Valley aims to help those affected by recent earthquakes, RFK Jr. tells NH crowd hes considering a presidential run, Epping woman pleads guilty to threatening Michigan election official in 2020, We also hear excerpts from an interview with, Read about the most recent cougar "sightings". New Hampshire Public Radio | Mike you're on the air. New Hampshire Fish and Game Department says there's no proof. Tell us your story. I tracked cats and all the western states. Today, their range stretches from the Yukon Territory in Canada along the western coast of the United States, all the way to the Southern Andes in Chile. Numerous scat and fur specimens have been turned in as part of mountain lion report investigations; DNA identification has shown these submitted samples to be from domestic dog, coyote, bobcat andraccoon. Patrick Tate: I would say well when social media first started they picked up the hoaxes became much more prevalent in the last four or five years hoaxes have died down completely. Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? So this whole illegal pet trade black market pro trade thing does does exist in a situation like that can happen. Mountain lions live in the state. Patrick Tate: Martin Like what about Panther Panther saying animals same animal and like a bit of trivia Guinness Book of World Records says the animal with the most names is in English alone they're supposedly 40 names for Mount lion. Yes. Mountain lions (especially males) have incredibly large ranges that they defend from rivals. NHPR is nonprofit and independent. So there is definitely no downward pressure by anyone. Yeah 13 to 15 years ago 13 to 15 years ago. But no proof was offered. 44-H Links. It was in the spring flash kind of early summer and my wife looked at you look at the size of an adult bear and we were up in arms. Early in the morning. Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction. Patrick Tate: While a juvenile not a juvenile I guess if you want nodes to the base of the tail for juvenile that wouldn't be small at all. Mike thanks for your call. Pat what do you think the mystique of the mountain lion. So I did a bunch of research and all the documentation I found was there art are not any pieces of DNA of Eastern online. So one thing I'd point out is we've been talking about situations with no evidence a number of them come in with photographs and yet what they fit what they description of the animal they saw and by the way I got a picture of what I saw. 1957. Post your sightings and NH photos here! Peter Biello: This is the exchange on an HD PR fine Peter Biello and today we're talking with folks who can tell us about the mysterious elusive mountain line and whether or not it is actually here in New Hampshire. Residents Report Mountain Lion Sighting By Elysia Rodriguez Published August 11, 2015 A southern New Hampshire neighborhood believes a mountain lion is roaming the woods near their homes. And boy it was big it had to be at least 200 pounds the thing was you and and it just made a little bit of noise and it was gone. So maybe a good pet for you but not for your neighbor if you just stop by unannounced. Today on the exchange we discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. Almost all species disperse greater distances than females. Peter Biello: Today on the program Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist and far better project leader Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in which is about the natural world and how we use it. So. If you missed part of today's program listen to the exchange. So when we hear mountain lion there's also cougar there's wild cat there's Bobcat which is not a mountain lion maybe Patrick could you sort of spell out the different terms which are synonymous and which are completely different animals. It traveled all the way from from you know Minnesota to New York without being so seen Patrick take. Lions Clubs Int'l Links: LionNet NH Links 2011 -2012 . Sam Evans-Brown: But I mean the video I had been sent was you know a recording of a animal growling but it was in slow motion and when I asked the person why is this in slow motion the denied that it was so there's a lot of weird stuff that happens in regards to people claiming they've seen they've seen these things. Sam Evans-Brown: So I just had two thoughts which is that we hear a lot of these stories and all of us here have heard these stories. Good morning guys. And those and that's how you can go from a story that Pat says I have nothing to say about that to a story that you know could be the first verified sighting in over 100 years. Just. Its impossible to say, but I think the odds are pretty good that some of these sightings are legit. Patrick Tate: I don't believe it is. Let's talk to Mike in Webster.
Why do people keep seeing mountain lions (which aren't here) but not That's what we're seeing is dispersing mountain lions from the West who are just making their way through. They lived perhaps elsewhere in New England and they were just passing through and happened to have an encounter of some sort. Chartered: 1973 . Well I can't tell you what you saw. Peter Biello: Give us a call 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 you can also send us an email exchange at an HP morgue. So I will just say this is a big reason why there have not been confirmed sightings I think is that the evidence required first.
Wildlife biologist breaks down mountain lion sightings in CT | New Caller: Oh yeah. Is there something particularly hospitable about New Hampshire Forests that make them want to come here. Infinite Scroll Enabled. That's why we always go back to the physical evidence to support what they're reporting. They absolutely do. OK. I noticed it had a really big sweeping tail that kind of curled up behind it and all but still at that point because everyone says there's no mountain lions here. They're just moving around freely. And the cougar embodies that. Do you get a lot of these these these things that end up being hoaxes. Share. PublishedNovember 16, 2018 at 6:16 AM EST. Patrick Tate: Same here in New Hampshire too. This is a machine-generated transcript, and may contain errors. Rick your thoughts. Can you look into this picture. Caller: I have yeah. And I saw you cat about four feet long from nose to tail come across from the water across the road and just leap over a six foot perimeter fence in a single bound. Get your tickets today and one for fifty dollars or six for 150 at NH PR and board. The nonbelievers are going to say Show us your evidence and show us prove this to us. The DNA the DNA that they were able to pull from the cat suggested that it was a dispersed mountain lion that came. M from Tree Hill author series presenting Diane lay back. But my experience was that the majority of these accounts could not be taken lightly. Now that to me seemed to indicate that they had done the secondary workup that in my opinion proved the existence of probably a disperse or possibly from South Dakota like the one in 2011. We had six copies printed out each. Having not found any evidence is not the same as saying there are no mountain lions, its the same as saying we dont know. So for our scientists to do the lumping and whatnot. Mountain lions remain an enigmatic animal for residents of New Hampshire, with New Hampshire Fish and Game reporting three to five sightings per week. Updated: 9:53 AM EST Dec 6, 2016. The number 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 so promised a discussion about conspiracy theories. Caller: And then there's the Lily Pond Road and then there's a six foot tall fence. Sam Evans-Brown: And second the evidence required is is you know pretty pretty tough to gather. Yes. Its distinctive featurethe one that sets it apart from other North American wild catsis its tail, which is thick and often as long as its body.
Think You Saw A Mountain Lion in N.H.? - New Hampshire Public Radio The big cat has been extinct here since the mid-1800s. So I would put this in the category of sort of like shark attacks right. You know you have to have a license and it's hard to get that license a license to own a mountain lion. There's no attraction. There were several sightings in CT over the last few months. Lots of people have stories about them, people have them on their game cameras I mean its kind of a thing. But but I've also seen it cited the opposite way that look they're very secretive. It is also known as cougar, panther, mountain lion, and puma, though catamount is the preferred regional vernacular. Patrick Tate: In theory it's a passing ball of a court and it goes wherever the bottom Ball wants to go. Does not test random Scouts. A monthly donation of $5 makes a real difference. HOLDERNESS, N.H. (AP) Two of the known mountain lions in New Hampshire have spent their 15 years in close proximity to humans. Do they travel. All of that remains unanswered but it is an extremely interesting question. There's no logic for why they'd be listed as an endangered species. Caller: Are probably. Really appreciate you guys being here as well. Mountain lions ( Puma concolor) are one of the six native species of wild cats in North America. Let us know your story and share your photos! So take care of this problem. It's you know I recognized their report and. Thanks for a great thanks. My wife and I saw a mountain lion. But you can continue the conversation on Facebook or at our Web site and HP Borg. HOLDERNESS, N.H. (AP) Two of the known mountain lions in New Hampshire have spent their 15 years in close proximity to humans. Maps of Trapping Take by Town 1994 to 2004.